Visions 2000
Translated from German by Stef
How old were you then?
"Ten. I've been obsessed with music ever since, nothing
else came close. School was something I wanted to get
over and done with as quickly as possible. "
And what was your very first encounter with music?
"I think it was in 1971, at the Ohio State Fair. Every
US state has got something like that, it's a mix
between a fun fair and a festival. The Jackson Five
played in 1971, although I don't really remember them,
because I was only two, but they were my first musical
encounter. So maybe subconsciously, I want to be
Michael Jackson" (laughs)
When was the first time you experienced music
consciously?
"The most important experience as far as music is
concerned, was the first time I saw a band play live,
because for the first time, I became aware of the
energy music had and I realized that music would play
an important role in my life. It was more than just
listening to music on the radio."
What was the band called?
"It was 'Naked Raygun' and 'Rights Of The Accused' in
Chicago, and apart from a few high school bands, I had
never been to a live gig. I was 12 or 13, and I went to
see some relatives in Chicago with my parents. My
cousin Tracey had just become a punk rocker, she was
wearing bondage trousers and had her hair shaved off. I
was very impressed, because I only knew punk from
watching TV. The show was great, and since then I knew
that a live gig should always be in a small club. The
band and the audience should be so close together that
you don't need a mic to communicate. My first real rock
concert came a lot later, when I was 18 or 19. I was at
'Monsters Of Rock' featuring the Scorpions, Van Halen,
Dokken and Metallica. Metallica were fucking great, it
was just before they released '...And Justice For All'.
Well, it was impressive to be standing amongst 50,000
people, but apart from that I didn't really like it:
The bands were unbelievably far away and it took 3
seconds for the sound to reach the audience from the
stage."
Your musical taste is very varied. When you look at the
strange assortment of cover versions, that the Foo
Fighters play live, you sometimes have to wonder. Do
you seriously like stuff like Third Eye Blind, Shania
Twain, Backstreet Boys and Journey?
"Oh, many songs we play live are meant as a joke. If
there are any technical problems, we'll just noodle
something we've heard on the radio that day to fill the
gap. That also goes for 'Nookie' by Limp Bizkit and it
was great fun. The audience went bananas, obviously
they must have liked it more than any of our own stuff.
Covering songs from the charts is simply a fun way to
pass the time."
Supergrass can feel honoured that you played 'Richard
III', because the Foo Fighters are one of the very few
US bands that Supergrass think are great.
"That's really flattering. They make great records and
are really nice guys. We took them with us on a US
tour, but unfortunately, they didn't really become
famous. That's because they're all about the music and
don't have a ready-made image, are not glamorous or big
mouths. Simply making great music isn't enough in
America, only very few people are interested in that."
Still, the Foo Fighters are an example that it can also
work without any sort of false image. But when you
started learning the first chords on your guitar,
success was still a long way off. Were your parents
supportive of your passion, although your school marks
were suffering?
"My mum was a teacher, so she couldn't be all that
happy about my attitude. My dad is a journalist, and
back then, he would have certainly wished for me to do
something else, too. All parents want their kids to do
brilliantly at school. Still, I dropped out of high
school pretty early, because I'd just joined Scream and
they were just about to go on tour. Why should I have
stayed at school and learn things I wouldn't really
need later, when I could do something I really loved
and wanted to pursue with all my energy: Music. I've
educated myself, and I think that the experiences I've
had travelling around the world are worth more than
what I could have learned in a stupid classroom. But
of course I've been very lucky. I know many people, who
just stagnated after leaving school, and who are now
stuck in a very narrow mindset."
If success hadn't come to you, would you have given up
your musical dream in the end?
"I think that I would still be making music, but I
would probably have a 'normal' job too. Incidentally,
even today I go through phases, when I wish I had a
completely normal job. I was 18 when I started touring
with bands, and I'll soon be 32. When I've been on tour
for a whole year, I sometimes long for the world
outside, outside of the routine of a hard-working band.
Just as many people envy me for being able to travel to
Germany with my band, I envy those people for sleeping
in the same bed each night. That's a luxury to me."
What else do you miss in your rock 'n' roll life?
"Many people don't like their homes and feel trapped.
Unfortunately, these people forget that a home also
represents some sort of security, a foundation in your
life. We've become used to not having this, I don't
feel homesick all the time, but home, to me, symbolizes
normality I often long for. I don't necessarily mean a
certain place or building. I miss my family more than
my house. Sometimes, I have my family flown in, when
I'm on tour. As soon as they're with me I feel at
home."
In an interview three years ago, you told me that
you're someone who always has to be in a relationship.
As soon as one has finished, you're rushing into the
next one.
"That's true. You're always searching for the right
person, with whom you'll have reached your aim, at
last."
And you haven't found this person yet?
"Mmm, could be, but I'm not completely sure. This
person should make you feel good, make life seem
beautiful to you."
Being on the road so much, do you even get the time to
find out whether the current relationship is the
perfect one?
"Frequent Flyer Miles help a little. The most important
thing in a relationship, for me, is understanding.
Everyone is looking for the perfect partner, but you
often forget that you do need other people in your
life, too. That often causes difficulties. Searching
for the perfect partner, a lot of the time, you want to
see things in a person, that aren't really there. Then
you need a lot of understanding, and the realization,
that perfection is a lot to demand. And the ability to
communicate and be honest to each other. You can only
be honest to yourself, if you can be honest to others.
It's a permanent learning process, as far as this is
concerned, I'm still a student. In the school of life."
If your family is that important to you, you'll surely
want some kids of your own one day, is that right?
"Definitely! I've not got any definite plans, but I do
hope it will happen before I'm 49. Having kids is
something I'm already looking forward to. When you're
in a band and you're constantly on the go in your
limited kind of cosmos, there's a time when you lose
sight of the big picture. Every day is the most
important one ever, every show the most important show
of all, all this overinflated stuff.
But then , I open my eyes and see the world as a whole
and I think: Fuck that! The most important thing in
life is happiness, contentment, family, and to have as
many experiences as possible. When I was very young, I
just couldn't imagine to be old one day. Now, I can a
bit better, sometimes I already feel quite old."
But that's normal, nearly everyone goes through that.
"That's right. You only start thinking about getting
old when you've discovered your first grey hairs, which
happened to me recently. When I was 15, I thought I
wouldn't ever be 18, at 18 I never believed to be 21
some day, then 25. I just couldn't imagine myself being
5 years older than what I was at the time."
But your character is so completely different from your
former band mate Kurt Cobain. You always seem to be a
funny, life-affirming person, not a depressive
nihilist, who longs for death or, at least, thinks
about it all the time.
"It's not death. I just have a problem imagining the
future. I think many people of my generation feel like
this in America. Ten years before me, people
automatically took the normal career path, whereas my
generation didn't aim for proper jobs, but took on some
job or another. Nobody I know has gone through heaps of
training. You leave school and look for some
opportunity to earn some money to buy all the
essentials. I didn't have a concrete idea of what I
would become one day. Even music I only did for fun, I
never knew what would come out of it."
Do you have an explanation for the fact that you regard
this as a specific problem of your generation?
"I recently talked to my dad about this. When I reached
the teenage years, Ronald Reagan became President of
the United States. The relationship with Russia was
very strained at that time, and we grew up with the
awareness that a nuclear war could break out at any
moment, after which nothing would remain. Reagan
fuelled this paranoia and used it for his own
propaganda. To us kids, this propaganda of paranoia
conveyed the certainty, that some day the world would
just cease to exist. I often dreamed of the apocalypse,
especially after watching this film about WWIII."
You mean 'The Day After'?
"Yes, that's what it was called. I was so frightened
watching this film I nearly shit my pants. I can't
believe you remember the film."
Well, I'm part of your generation, too, and the Cold War
was very noticeable in divided Germany as well.
Luckily, this threat doesn't exist anymore. What are
you frightened of today?
"My biggest fear is that I'll be on the road for the
rest of my life"(laughs). "Every year, I tell myself
I'm gonna stop or at least limit the amount of touring
we do. I want out - but they won't let me!"
Words:Dirk Siepe