Arena 2002
Six months ago a new Foo Fighters album seemed as likely as a "Learn To Swim With Barrymore" video. Grohl was apending more time wrangling with Courtney Love over the Nirvana back catalouge and drumming for other bands than writing songs. So how come the Foo Fighters have pulled off their best album yet?
Dave Grohl is not one of life's suit-wearers. In an airy penthouse suite atop London's Metropolitan Hotel he peruses the racks of menswear with the evident distaste of a man who, a decade after grunge's zenith, still occasionally rocks the lumberjack look. Foo Fighters guitarist Chris Shiflett is more enthusiastic, shucking off his shirt to reveal a gallery of tattoos, notably a gothic "lust for life" arcing across his abdomen. Bassist Nate Mendel quietly rifles through his CD wallet for suitable background music before settling on Roots Manuva. Drummer Taylor Hawkins, meanwhile, amuses himself with unflattering impressions of The Strokes, the traditional US rock star "comedy" British accent, and a drum beat constructed entirely from armpit farting noises. As for Grohl, frowning over the clothes rail, it may clarify the Issue to know that a) a German stylist - recently tried to get him in a whistle so nasty he nearly left the building, and he's still trying to get over the experience, and b) the last time he did actually wear a suit was in court.
Dave Grohl was the drummer in Nirvana
for less than four years. He has been the
frontman of the Foo Fighters for twice that,
selling almost eight million albums and
building a fervently loyal fanbase. But when
you've been in arguably the most significant
band of the last ten years, the past has a way
of sucking you in, whether you like it or not.
On May 7, 2001, Courtney Love, Kurt Cobain's
widow, filed a law suit attempting to dissolve
LLC, the company she established four years
earlier with Grohl and bassist Krist Novoselic
to oversee Nirvana's music. Plans for a 45-
song box-set and greatest hits package to
mark the 10th anniversary of their seminal
Nevermind album were put on hold. (Now,
after yet more court wrangles, that greatest
hits package should be in your stocking
this Christmas.)
So Grohl has spent the last year and a half
in and out of lawyers' offices and court
rooms, while also moonlighting behind the
drumkit for California's Queens Of The
Stone Age and playing on records by David
Bowie and comedy rock duo Tenacious D.
Somehow, he also managed to complete the
Foo Fighters' fourth album, One By One,
despite a tortuous recording process which
came close to wrecking the band. For a man
with little taste for drama he's seen more of
it recently than fans of The West Wing.
Whatever the legal intricacies of the battle
for Nirvana's legacy, you can understand
why public sympathy favours Grohl and
Novoselic. While Courtney Love's every utt-
erance has a similar effect on your average
music fan to Freddy Krueger's customised
glove slicing down a blackboard, Grohl is
plainly a nice guy. Sitting down to talk in the
bar of The Metropolitan a few days earlier, he
is magnetic but goofy with it, thanks to his
lolloping six-foot frame and huge, toothy,
gummy grin. Tribal tattoos spiral up his arm
from his leather wristbands into the arms
of his white T-shirt and his face sports a pair
of unfashionably meaty sideburns. At 33,
there's still something of the gawky high
school kid about him.
  On the table sits a pack of Marlboros and a
glass of sparkling water. No coffee. "We
were in Germany the other day and in an
effort not to fall asleep because of the [slipping into a convincing teutonic drone]
Germans' monotone questions which are slightly
insulting but meant to be complimentary.
I was drinking like ten, twelve cups of coffee.
Then I go to my room to take a nap and
I'm glued to the fucking wall. Waah!" The
teeth and gums appear. "It's like taking much acid."
  These days, coffee is one of the Foo Fighters' only vices. Last time they were in Britain,
a year ago, they had to cancel a number of
festival dates after drummer Taylor Hawkins
had what he refers to as a "happy nap'. A
collapse originally blamed on that old rock
standby "exhaustion", it turned out to be
down to painkiller addiction. and a spell in
rehab followed. Now, says bassist Nate
Mendel, the band are "fucking boring. When
you turn 30 you start talking about working
out and tofu and shit."
  This state of affairs suits Grohl just fine.
"We talk about the right things to do when
you're in a band. In Nirvana I learnt all the
wrong things to do." Such as? "Use your
imagination," he grins cagily. "There are lots
of open doors that you want to stay away
from, lots of crossroads where you definitely
want to go to the right and not the left. You
just figure those things out."
  For all his experiences in Seattle, Los Angeles
and the world's arenas, Grohl's heart
still belongs to suburbia. He lives outside
Washington DC in Alexandria, Virginia
about a mile away from his old
high school. David Eric Grohl was born on
January 14, 1969 in Warren, Ohio to a
German-American political journalist and a
language teacher of Irish descent. A few
years later the Grohls relocated to Washington DC
just before the Watergate scandal broke
revealing a family trait for moving to the right
place at the right time. Later, Grohl Senior
became a sought-after speechwriter, once turning down a job with Republican
presidential hopeful Bob Dole.
  "My dad was a really straight dude but
he was a jazz freak," says Grohl fondly. "He
was a flautist. I was always surrounded by
culture and music and literature so I was
definitely the exception in my neighbourhood. I didn't grow up a complete idiot."
  When he was 17 Grohl lied about his age
to get a job playing with Washington DC
hardcore punk band, Scream. When they
split up four years later a friend told him that
a new Seattle group, Nirvana, were looking
for a drummer. The rest you probably know
- and if you don't then Grohl is not the man
to tell you. When he does mention his old
band, it's not to reference their post-Never-
mind supernova but the early days. If he
refers, unprompted, to Cobain, the memory
is always a simple, happy one.
  "It's funny," he reflects, chewing on a club
sandwich. "Music has changed so much in the last ten years. In the Eighties, there was
never, ever the slightest chance that your
band was going to become famous. You
were playing punk rock, you were playing in
squats, you were stealing food and sleeping
on people's floors. Nowadays when you
graduate high school you have three options:
you can go to college, appear on The Real
World, or start a band, make a video and
hope that MTV plays it. Nowadays you see a
band do their first tour on a bus!" He shakes
his head. "It's so different now it makes me
feel old. And I'm only 33."
  What changed it all of course was Nirvana.
Grohl thinks the box-set, when it finally
appears, will tell the story of how "crazy
acid-drenched punk rock insanity" some-
how gave birth to platinum-selling alt-rock
and hence, eventually, to the likes of Nickelback. Even ten years on, Grohl wriggles with
ambivalence about the change. Despite his
natural charisma, he was never a born rock
star. Before Nirvana shows he would suffer
panic attacks. "I still do," he says emphatically.
"I mean I have general anxiety anyway. I'll have a panic attack in traffic. I'll have a
panic attack on a plane. I need to know there
is a way out. When you're playing live there's
no way out, man. Once you're up there you've
got an hour to fill and you'd better do it."
After Cobain's suicide, Grohl did not set
out to repeat the Nirvana effect. The first
Foo Fighters album, released in 1995, was a
collection of self recorded demos originally
intended to be completely anonymous. It
was just a way to keep busy. "Because for a
year after Nirvana I didn't know what to do
with my life. I wasn't sure whether I was
going to pack it in and become That Guy. Or
go and play drums with someone else and
become That Drummer."
  No review of that first album, however flattering, could resist a reference to Ringo
Starr's wretched solo career, or indeed any
drummer with front-of-stage ambitions.
Grohl accepts that "most people see drummers as cavemen. How difficult can it really
be, just beating the shit out of stuff?" At first,
he felt that the leap was "a big fucking scam".
"I didn't know what to do. I didn't know
how to act. But then I realised, why am I
trying to be something else? It's not that big
of a fucking deal. I can't imagine being the
flamboyant decadent front-person of the
band because I'm not like that."
  Despite writing most of the songs, Grohl
splits the songwriting credits four ways. Still
infatuated by the camaraderie of band life,
he strives for as much equality as possible
while still being the one who calls the shots.
"True democracy rarely works for a rock
band," offers Taylor Hawkins. "It usually
ends in fisticuffs and breaking up. And Dave
is usually right."
  The Foo Fighters are an eclectic bunch,
Nate Mendel joined in 1995 when the frontman of his previous band became a born-
again Christian and renounced the evils of
rock. "I wanted to fucking murder him,"
Mendel recalls evenly. A dry, quiet character,
his idea of a good day out on tour is mountain biking to the nearest museum. "I've
never really liked the aesthetic of rock," he
sniffs. "The live-fast-die-young credo I always
thought was kind of dumb. Y'know, I went
college. I could have been an historian."
  Chris Shiflett is the most recent recruit
catapulted from audition to tour in the
space of a week back in 1999. He's gentler
and less assuming than you'd expect someone
with 'Gimme Gimme' tattooed inside
lower lip to be. Born and bred in California
he gets up at five every morning to go
surfing and work out. "If I can manage to take
my girlfriend out to dinner and be in bed by
nine o'clock I'm fucking happy," he smiles.
"It's not very rock'n'roll but it works for me."
  Then there's Taylor Hawkins, a man for
whom your average drummer joke might
have been written. He jitters constantly in
his seat, waving a Parliament cigarette around
for 20 minutes without ever lighting it.
When an attractive woman enters the bar, he leaps
into gangly life. "Uh!" he grunts. "Wooo!
Damn! Oh, she's with a man." He slumps
back. "I have a girlfriend, but there's no
harm looking. You gotta love the ladies."
Indeed. Hawkins lives in Topanga Canyon,
LA, which is "like Surrey but not. Maybe the
hills of Surrey. Are there hills in Surrey?"
Recruited from Alanis Morissette's touring
band, he talks like the Foo Fighters', and
Grohl's, biggest fan. "We've never communi-
cated perfectly," he says. "I'm fucking flat-out emotional, say everything, and Dave's
guarded a little bit. But put me and Dave in
a car on a road trip and it's Dumb And
Dumber." No prizes for guessing who's who.
  Although Grohl skims over the problems
that plagued the recording of One By One,
his bandmates do not. After two months of
tense, largely fruitless work last winter,
Grohl called a band meeting to declare that
he was taking a break to play with Queens
Of The Stone Age. "I remember thinking,
'Oh shit'," says Shiflett. "It's like breaking
up with your girlfriend. You say, 'We should
take a break'. And what you mean is, 'I don't
want to go out with you anymore.'"
  Mendel simply says "it was hell". Hawkins,
characteristically, is more animated. "There
was a lot of me which was like, 'Fuck you,
man! This is your band. You're the leader. Be
the leader!' I was pissed about that. But in
hindsight, he was right."
  After that impromptu hiatus of a couple of
months, One By One was recorded in a break-
neck 14 days. It's an urgent, intense album
with an unlikely cameo on one song by
extravagantly coiffed Queen guitarist Brian
May (Hawkins is a Queen nut). It sounds like
a band playing at the height of their powers.
Like a handful of other unpretentiously
impressive bands, the Foo Fighters become
more valuable with age and perhaps nobody
is more surprised by their continued success
than Grohl himself. "It's funny to think that,
that demo tape eight years ago would have
brought me here to London in 2002 talking
about our fourth album," he says, not with
phoney "aw shucks" modesty but genuine
bemusement. He gestures around the bar
and, beyond it, to the unlikely trajectory of
his life. "I didn't imagine this."
  In the penthouse suite a few days later,
Chris Shiflett holds up the cover of a recent
issue of Arena and asks Grohl something
along the lines of, "Did you really go with
Katie Holmes?" Grohl maintains a gentle-
manly silence, to which Shiflett responds
with the succinct, but envious, "Bastard!"
  If there was a dalliance with the winsome
Dawson's Creek star, it evaded the gossip
columns. Grohl has had some high-profile
partners, including rock star magnet Winona Ryder and former Smashing Pumpkins
bassist Melissa AufDer Mar, but is currently marking his first anniversary with an MTV
producer called Jordan, who's "a doll". He
has a second home in Los Angeles, a few
blocks away from Jordan's family and a far
cry from the "fucking shag cabin" he inhabited there in the mid-Nineties, before returning to Virginia. "I enjoy that normalcy," hesays. "It makes me feel like a good person.
I'm the only person I know who says, 'I can't
wait to have children.' I don't know anyone
else like that and there sure aren't a lot of
those people in Los Angeles."
  Another benefit of steering clear of LA's
celebrity haunts is that it minimises the risk
of bumping into Courtney Love, a woman
whom he must sometimes feel he can never
escape. In July, when the Foo Fighters played
T In The Park, he announced, "I've been
pretty nice about this Courtney Love stuff for
a while, but now that shit is really pissing
me off." Since then, he claims, things have
changed. "I'd come to think of it as this end.
less battle that I dealt with every day that
made me so angry it squeezed my stomach.
But I think what I've realised in all of this is
that the most important thing is the music.
Nirvana stood for a lot of things. One of the
things it didn't stand for was litigation. When
I look back at Nirvana I just think about the
music and the people who were my friends."
  Will you read Kurt's diaries when they're
published? "No," he says as if the idea is
absurd. "I wouldn't read a friend's diary. If
he was alive he wouldn't let anybody read it."
Do you think your obituary will read "Foo
Fighter Dies" or "Nirvana Drummer Dies"?
'Who knows?" he shrugs. "It'll probably just
say 'Musician'. Hopefully. That's what I'd
like for it to say." Then, as he gets up to to
leave, he can keep a straight face no longer.
"It'll say Nirvana," he laughs. "Come on."
Words: Dorian Lynskey